Friday, March 19, 2010

Update #3

Hey guys,

Sorry I was gone for a couple of days so I had no chance to reply and update you guys on what's going on.
Thank god my best right-wing woman *LOL* Euphoria did so.
Also, I got updated by her that Shin, who was supposed to co-open the manga site with me just decided to back out of the project. Needless to say, I was terribly disappointed.
He claimed to return donations, and I got my money back. But can you guys please double check your paypal ->History, and see if the money is back?
Thanks.


Anyways, we are back to square 1, and honestly, Sara and I been thinking of backing out after Shin's betrayal. But we won't because we promised you guys a manga site. And hell, you guys will get one.

Please just give us some time while we take everything upon us to complete it as best as we could.
If you would like to help us in terms of donations, site help or uploading, you have no idea how much we would appreciate it.

Thanks again guys,

Cheers.
VLING

27 comments:

  1. I would not mind helping with the site and uploading. I would just need a bit of experience or training. Unfortuanetly I would not be able to help donations wise so the best I could offer would be my time.

    Sinraeyan

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  2. I'm in the same boat as Sinraeyan, but i can't upload cos i don't have much bandwidth and don't have any manga really...

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  3. >.> same as my colleagues up there, can't do much about donations (yet, independance is still a few years away!) but count on me for anything else.
    Too bad for Shin and you guys but it's still his choice, a sad one though.

    Hope you can sort it out but remember if you're going through with the site make sure it's something you really want, doing it only for the others will condemn it to death later on. If you do go through with it, you can count on us for the support!

    VNpowa

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  4. i love you guys
    and shin just forget about that person =D

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  5. My heart is bleeding, since I can't be of any help either, in a year I might, honestly. It just sucks that I can't help right now, where you guys(ermm.. girls =)) have to get things started first...

    But I really must emphasize what Alexandre said up there: Don't do it unless you really want it! Of course, you can imagine that it will be a glorious moment once your site gets popular and YOU were the initiators, but it will take time and work till you get there. Only do it out of dedication, not out of sympathy for us, please.

    and i love you girls, too^^
    you're awesome ;)

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  6. Aw, thanks for the awesome support you guys!
    I was half expecting you guys to go, WTF, WE WERE WAITING FOR YOU.
    But I'm so glad you guys understand ;]
    It's because there's awesome people like you, we WANT to do it ^^

    we have some good news, i will post it up as soon as everything is finalized =D

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  7. =O you are too kind XD But it would be a bit slack if we were like that. It is your kindness that is allowing this to go ahead XD

    I'll be checking everyday for this XD

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  8. What? Soooo Shin was in charge of some crazy donation thing and failed to succeed?

    How sad, but quite foreseeable. He isn't someone you can fully depend on when things get tough. Don't you see it? Proof has already given birth to this obvious fact of his misfortunes.

    Are we still selecting new manga names for the new manga site or what? and why do you use blogspot for an update support messenging?

    Vling, have you ever heard of other free hosting sites that give you better "shorter & more professional" domain names to use? Blogspot isn't a good thing.

    Plus, it would be best to use a forum based support site. Like "forumation.com" and get support from there. Since it is a site that is similar to the structures as mangahut.com

    It would be better until you finally complete the new manga site that you guys were speaking of and promised everyone who felt betrayed and hopeful.

    Lastly, how much money do you guys plan on spending in order to get this new mangasite right on track?

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  9. oh please bitch, shut-up.

    "Are we still selecting new manga names for the new manga site or what?"

    -Are you even a part of this?

    "Lastly, how much money do you guys plan on spending in order to get this new mangasite right on track?"

    -Donations are appreciated azula, so might as well give us one.

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  10. Hey now, don't start again you two... (and whoever wants to join)

    Anyway, you can count on me as an upploader, but sorry for not being able to donate... I'm hoping this goes forward ;).

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  11. @Ninja
    -Well, I thought I was part of this. But since you would ask that, I guess I'm not wanted...

    -Donations are excepted. That is obvious.
    Stop trying to talk smart.
    What I'm getting at is this
    --- How much money do you guys need?
    --- How much money do you guys plan on spending?

    And me being a bitch and being told to shut up?
    --- Sure, I just take the insult. As well as shutting up. Peace.

    And about this new manga site you guys are making, I wish you guys luck. I really do.
    But I'll focus on being mentally free from "helping manga sites". It really hurts to see mangahut end up the way it did. Personally, I don't feel like helping or being part of any manga influenced site at this time (other than mangahut).

    Yes, I also agree not to help KaitenV/Nination until he hands it over to someone who could be more mature and revive the site to what it once was.

    I've already decided that 3-4 years from now that I'll be making a manga site of my own.
    I will have to wait that long to complete my team helpers to get things to final direction.

    -Obtaining enough money for paying staff members who will be doing various work for this manga site. And I have many other plans.

    I truly love what you guys & gals are doing and appreciate your enthusiasm. But honestly, what you guys are bringing to the table isn't going to be as good as what I will be bringing to the table. My only advice would be that you should use a site name that is short.

    Sites like Mangatoshokan.com is pathetically too long of a name. Also, the web codings used for that site is pathetic. OneManga, MangaFox, ManagHut - these names are short and sound like sites that can be easily remembered.

    In about 3 to 4 years from now - I'll contact all of you when I have finished with the preparations. I'll allow you all to see my masterpiece of manga site.

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  12. @ Azula
    Okay... I wasn't going to respond to your comment. But I frigging knew it. xD

    Your brother badmouthed our site we will be making, that we will fail and bla blah childish shit. Your first comment, you acted like you were all superior... (BTW, compared to what Static did, Shin handles things way better than him. Maybe you shouldn't have his help with your 'masterpiece' of manga site.) So I wondered if you're here to see us fail too. With your second comment, you proved me right. With that said, I don't trust you. Or Static. So I don't think I would want your help... :/

    Anyhow, we appreciate your suggestions. If we already decided on the naming, we certainly would mention it. Be patient for the next update. Thanks.

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  13. Uhm wow.
    Ninja and Sara managed to reply before I did, I was pretty pissed after reading your comment Azula, but I steered clear from typing in case I got too bitchy.

    I may not personally know you, but you struck me as stuck up.You may think that the World revolves around you since the whole ordeal with Nination and MangaHut. Sorry to burst that bubble, what we did in MangaHut wasn't because of you, it was because of what Nination was doing to our friends.

    We welcome suggestions and comments as a community who would love to see our site progress, what you wanted and contributed in terms of idea based on your first comment was indirectly showing your materialistic dream.
    Setting up a big site immediately through professional way, which requires alot of money.
    Sorry but we actually have a life, where we need to pay bills and pay for our personal life's expenditures.
    We're setting up the manga site with money from our own pockets, and whatever donations we can get. We could've backed out after Shin dropped out of the project but we didn't, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't look down on us.

    I use blogspot because I have an account available and use blogger for fun. I don't see why I have to purchase a professional domain yet. I work with my team of friends/staff and we decided we didn't need to waste money on a real site until we decided what to do.
    I stated clearly that this was just a temporary site that I would use.

    Sure you may be able to produce a manga site 1000x better and bigger since you will be hiring the professional team we couldn't afford in 4 years time. But what we do as a team here, is something you might never achieve. We decide and plan things together, we fall and we learn from our mistakes, but at least we're having fun.


    I wish you all the best in your future manga site.

    -VLING

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  14. @euhoria
    Interesting perception. Fine, think what you like. And the comment about my brother being childish... Well, that was my brother - not me. Bringing that up really truly has no relation with me.

    And for him badmouthing (in your words) "our site" somehow makes me think oddly.
    --- Last time I checked, you guys don't have a site. Last time I checked it was mad clear that he badmouthed "the people" making the site.

    Honestly, I don't want to be concerned anymore than I already am. And as for me earning your trust, or anyones for that matter, wasn't really part of my plan since I won't be needing it ... EVER.

    I'll just observe from the shadows and see where all your destinies lay on this unusual mis-fortunate journey.

    And having "Static" helping me - was "MOST DEFINITELY" part of the plan. But in 4 years from now, he should more than mature.

    As for me calling my site a "masterpiece" is because the people that are getting involved with it are more than just mere experts, they are internet geniuses. Plus, I will make sure that my staff members gain benefits from helping us. (whether it be money payments or gift prizes). Again, just as you guys are working in a group, I will also be working in a group.

    I wouldn't like to work with staffs I never really liked anyways. I actually liked you Euphoria, I also liked Latoshan32, Lilcutiepie & TheQwertiest. As for the rest, I actually never liked at all.

    Again, I wish you all luck and hope you all reach complete success with your plans. Later.

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  15. WHY do people keep misspelling my nickname? XD

    Whether it's the people or 'non-existing' site he was badmouthing, it was still an insult. It's proof enough he thinks we will fail, at least in my opinion.

    Trust comes and goes, without permission. Enough said.

    Oh and I liked you too... Too bad it wasn't the real you.

    BTW, your brother's childish behavior wasn't the result of my distrust in you.

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  16. =O This looks like it's turning in to a fight. I still support the mutiny, maybe even more now, cos they are doing it for fans and for fun. They will have a site so much sooner than in 4 years. They will gain views, loyalty and reputation. They will most likely be more successful as, if it becomes anything like MH was, it would have fast uploading and a lot of range. Although Azula's site may technically be better, you need to have a community to make the site run. Even before the site is up, the mutiny has a lot of supporters. Azula, your site has none.

    I do beleive that Azula is sounding a bit like someone we have all heard aloooot of lately....
    Please don't have more of this fighting after all that happenned at MH. You all dislike Nination/KaitenV, so can't you at least live with that dislike and have peace between yourselves?

    I hope i have been helpful =)

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  18. @Euphoria (got the name correct this time ^.^)
    --- Why are you so self-conceited? xDD
    I really don't care about your weak insecure trusts towards me, soooo explaining to me about why you don't trust me really doesn't matter to me at all...LOL |^_^|

    And about you saying it wasn't the real me...I'm not going to correct you or gonna even ya ask what you meant because it really doesn't matter.

    Honestly, as you keep judging my brother as "childish"...I wonder if you know how old he truly is.

    And plus, he may have been obnoxious, insensitive, and insulting...but I believe "he contributed more than enough" to say whatever was on his mind at the "given time" of the period.

    Sure, it was unnecessary for him to say what he said, but he had a purpose, and being childish at those times or on a "manga site" really shouldn't be seen as a crime. Since everyone who loves "manga, hentai, & anime" all have some sort of "inner child" in all of them.

    As many posters quoted on Mangahut...
    I'd like to say this as well:
    --- "I've given my 'two cents' on that matter"

    I loved it when people ended there posts like that. xDDDD

    @SuperSath
    Have you heard of sites like-
    TeenHut.com
    Hsbsitez.com
    Daiphyer.com

    If you don't, I suggest you take a look at them. Especially "Hsbsitez.com" Those sites got allot of supporters being they provide top quality content. (their ads are the only discomforting thing I've witnessed)

    I "personally" know the "3 or 4" server admins that are involved with those sites. (one of them I've met in college). They've noticed the scenes of mangahut's current events and theyve offered how they'll help me out in the future when the time comes. There are MANY other professional web-administrators on many sites I visit who are willing to guide me.

    These people ALONE are more than enough to help me persuade other familiar communities (whether it be anime, manga, hentai, teenlife, etc.) to join my community.

    Also, there is this new form of advertising that will cost me at least $120,000 to make it happen. The proccess that it deals with will most definitely be worth it.

    Anyways Supersath, I don't think we were arguing. Ok, maybe we were...but it was not like a cat-fight or something...xDDD

    Hopefully, this will be my last comment in this thread...unless someone would "most likely" start something aggravating to bring me back in...lol

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  19. i wanted to comment but suddenly lost all will to..
    anyway we good luck to all of u but u all got to remember that after all it's an internet life don't take personally or seriously :D .

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  20. @azula

    That's cool then XD Good thing they are anime sites too, so it wouldn't clash with their business XD I'm not trying to pick at anyone, i just personally do not like fighting much, so will generally be against the person who starts a fight =P

    But anyways, if you do reply cos someone aggravated you (hoe it's not me), what's this advertising method? i don't know of many people wiling to spend $120k just to advertise their site, unless you can make alooot of profit from the site and the advertising is actually effective. Just curious XD

    ANd no, i hadn't heard of any of those sites, cos i'm not really a "h" person and i don't download anime XD

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  21. @nplm,
    --- I agree with you but I honestly don't care if I'm taking this too personally. The guy banned me and lied to the public on why he banned me after all I've done for his site. He never provided a reason and now he thinks I'll just site around and allow him to think he's the best? Screw that.

    But the internet life thing..maybe you're right. maybe I should just relax and and have a glass of lemonade and have a dip in my indoor swimming pool and laugh it all off...xDDD

    Um, in about 3 months from now, I have a feeling that this hatred of mine will run out of my system and I'd be able to think straight and be mentally prepared for what I have planned. Seriously or not. ^.^

    @SuperSasath,
    --- Well, this advertising method that I'm doing involves certain procedures that requires approval from 2 different companies. What will be involved to make it happen all depends on the amount of cash you able to present, and I most definitely have the cash.

    I don't want to brag...but "money" is a minor issue for me.

    At one point in time, I wanted to donate allot of MONEY to MangaHut including paying for a new forum, but then KaitenV/Nination started to provide premium membership & 3 particular scanlators & members, I've spoken to at MangaHelpers.com & SakuraHana.com, (as well as my brother, Static) told me not to.

    Anyways, about the money, I personally have my "ways" of acquiring income for my personal use. My mom is a doctor. And my dad, I don't even want to get started about him.

    Google ads & revenue income? ...hmm, that's a very nice thought. You know, maybe I'll advertise the site after the 12 months it has been created & finalized.

    The plans I'm doing are sort of a secret - since it involves not only me, but 14 other individuals who are getting the preparations at its finest procedure.

    I'm just the person that keeps everyone in check. I'm not the oldest of the bunch. (I'm actually one of the youngest) I'm the one with the ideas, and I get people to help produce those ideas into a particular & detailed reality.

    But enough with my plans and what I will offer in 3 to 4 years time...let us worry about TheMUTINY process and what they have to offer.

    I will love to see what you guys are supposedly planning to bring for a new mangasite. And I'll donate when I see something worth donating to.

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  22. Self-conceited and insecure? Those don't mix, sweetheart. xD

    LOL.



    Yeah, that's it... LOL. xD

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  23. ok i think that's enough for one thread
    @azula good luck in ur plans although i think those who talks much about what they will do do nothing (personal opinion)

    anyway i would like to hear updates from the mutiny to see if u are going to continue or stop and as supersath said if u don't love something don't do it for other ppl coz it is bound to fall eventually.

    last thing i thought that since kaiten was a jerk for all of u u will make that site together but well ........

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  24. God. Enough with the long ass comments.
    I think you will succeed with your site Azula, I really do.
    You're born into a family of money? Great. At least you have a good life getting money from your parents.
    Some of us work on our own without relying on our parents for money, so please don't flaunt it as it money grow on trees. If you have that much money and you can spend about 120k on advertising, why don't you help Haiti instead?

    I really hope there will be no more conflicts about this. I'm sure you will produce a fine site with your big dream and loaded wallet. But please stop commenting about how great it will be, and how we can never compete to your site.
    We're not doing this for you, we're doing this for the community and ex-members and fellowfriends of MangaHut.

    Enough said.
    @nplm : We are in the talks of setting up our site, it may seem like a long time but considering the fact that Shin backed out after 1 week with no news to us, we actually moved on faster with the past 2 days.
    As our webdesigner and coder are in 2 different timezones, it's hard to get them all into one room but we're working on it xD.

    Thanks for still keeping up with what's happening, we hope to produce good news in the next week or so.

    Cheers,
    VLING

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  25. Vling, baby... I think I sensed a bit of envy from your post. In my opinion, all of you post very long comments. All of you post educated comments. I enjoyed the read.

    Hope you guys pull this off. I'll be looking forward to Azula's site, and this site that will be up until then.

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  26. Good luck to everyone, peace. ;)

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