Wednesday, June 2, 2010

Loli Hentai

Yes, the most controversial thing in the Manga world. Now, I want this sight to hae the widest selection of things possible. All types of manga. Unfortunately for some people, that means Hentai (DUN DUN DUN.) Now I'm not gonna lie, MangaHut became more successful after people started to upload hentai. BUT, i've been getting requests to post..... LOLI. For those of you that dont know, that shits illegal (Child Pornography). And you can get sent to jail for having that on your PC. So uploading will be a hazard.

Now, the reason I'm posting this is because you guys are the life of the website. I need your opinions to run this site. Obviously when you do things people dont like, they leave, or rage. I personally dont like Loli hentai. Never really have. But there are people who do, and this site isnt about me. So wat do you guys think,

Should we just leave the loli hentai in a corner for those few who like it?
If so, then they will be responsible for it, and I'm gonna put all the blame on them if shit goes down with the FBI or such. Irresponsible or not, I dont want to be a registered sex offender.

Second option is that we do NOT post any loli hentai. This will make alot of people mad, but itll also keep the FBI off of our website, and hopefully our viewers.

NOTE: FOR THOSE WHO THINK ITS NOT FAMILY FRIENDLY OR UNSUITABLE FOR MINORS - I'll try to put a Mature Warning on it, so they will proceed at their own risk. If they click OK and they are minors, then its their fault. This will apply for all hentai.
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EDIT: People are saying it is not illegal, but i am still looking into it.

61 comments:

  1. FBI that's funny xD i don't read it but meh i have a folder from a site with about 4gig's of doujin's and such loli is in it. In Canada (where im from) im pretty sure loli is still seen as a cartoon form of porn and not actually child pronz. If you do decided to do loli should put a drop down bar asking for your D.O.B. Also i could possibly upload. Also keep in mind if the site has USA based ad supporters they will ask you to take it off.

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  2. Loli in the site taht will resume what im going to said,
    loli and cp are different subjects, if someone check your stuff and find loli its okay
    dont fbi or some bs like that

    but if they find cp well thats other story...

    theres no law against loli, that i know

    so i think the loli should stay.

    and thats all i have to said about that...

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  3. Now there is a law against loli. It is regarded as child pornography in the USA.

    Personally, I've always been against loli.

    And if the site is american with an american server, I'm sure it won't be just the uploaders who are going to be in trouble (if they are from omewhere where loli is regarded as such).

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  4. posted few ideas bout this on last blog post then saw this so theres a few ideas there.

    me 2, im not interested in loli and personally i dont know the ways around it or w/e but as the guys said before, you guys are putting time and effort into this, so i dont think you guys should put out that potential danger, its as you said you dont want to be the one who gets the blame because in america thats some serious shit, so tell me why do you want to put the risk on others or put it there alltogether for that matter, dont get me wrong, i respect others fetishes no matter what they may be..... i respect Rule #34(if you dont know google it) but theres a difference when we are talking about putting viewers behind bars.

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  5. NO loli please .. I like grown women both in real and in cartoons.

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  6. 1st off, glad to know people are still around here.

    2nd, The United States PROTECT Act of 2003 states that it

    "Prohibits drawings, sculptures, and pictures of such drawings and sculptures depicting minors in actions or situations that meet the Miller test of being obscene, OR are engaged in sex acts that are deemed to meet the same obscene condition. The law does not explicitly state that images of fictional beings who appear to be under 18 engaged in sexual acts that are not deemed to be obscene are rendered illegal in and of their own condition (illustration of sex of fictional minors)."

    People have already been arrested for having this loli.

    CONTROVERSY IS:This is teh internets. Idk guys. We are gonna need someone to research like crazy for this.

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    1. Thats the thing about the miller test, one of the prongs says that if it doesn't have an artistic value to it. so as long as it is drawn really well then there is no problem if your caught. and by the way those that have been caught with loli hentai have been caught due to cp not the loli stuff.

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  7. As an IT guy, I can honestly say "NO LOLI" if the server's aren't in America, but the viewer is...that's trouble.

    If the server is in America and the viewer isn't, there is still trouble as the person accessing will be prosecuted to the full extent of their local laws. Not all of them are friendly.

    While I'm not a big fan of hentai, I don't mind it's presence as long is it isn't so obvious that it is there. There are people under 18 that read manga on these sites. My sister is one of them. But as previously stated, my personal and professional opinion is that "NO LOLI" is the best and safest policy.

    Keep up the good work, I'll try to stay posted ;3

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  8. lolz i wasnt aware of that...
    nice #freedom# country u have there

    i will research it, but i think we must try,
    its not like the ur local police will shutdown the servers in the moment they see somehting they dont like so
    the idea is
    we upload, if nothing happen we are good
    if they bitch about this, we delete it

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  9. I honestly don't think we NEED loli.

    There's if there's such a need for it, they can go to a porn site that doesn't give a crap for their loli fix.

    Mangasarus, for me, is hopefully going to be a cool site to go to for comics/manga I can't otherwise acquire with real monies.

    *sips root beer*

    That said, I vote: No Loli, at all.

    Also, is the Gold Digger Series, by Fred Perry on the list of things to be added? His stuff ROCKS.

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  10. another idea....
    you can just block access to any ip comming from america and trying to access "loli" this way , if he changes his IP (his fault) , if he don't nothing happens ....
    I am actually against loli , but don't care really , as long as a mature tag is there for anything mature

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  12. i vote for yes loli ... just from the fact that we can't do it in real life ... and it does satisfied my need ... i mean why not? it's not like you gonna copy some random loli manga and do something to young ... it's like you know you should not do it and yes! those loli thing will attract you in ! ... i just need loli to satisfied my need without getting into jail ...

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  13. and if you think about it carefully ... the "mature warning" page would be enough for the people to know it's bad for kids and after they click that button ... it's pretty much up to their own ethics

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  14. Faust, Punny_Master summed it up for me. If theres a warning page, they should know not to click on it.

    Snow, who the hell said America was a free country.

    nplm, if i blocked all IP's coming from America on the hentai, everyone would leave

    So this is the plan I'm thinking of. Dont put loli on the site for a while. Then put a poll up on the site, and whichever side wins gets their way. HOWEVER, in the occasion that loli hentai actually wins, it will be very strict. I dont want to get buttraped by the FBI

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  15. I love HENTAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But please NO LOLI! I mean yeah I (as a girl) have fantasies about raping little catholic school girls but I still wouldn't do it. *sigh*
    As for mature viewing goes, like I said before its best if HENTAI can ONLY be viewed by members. You know like Youtube asks you to sign in and confirm your birthday for viewing videos that have been flagged. Then again that's my opinion.

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  16. Yea, thats probably wat'll end up happening Wingy.

    A good idea i think, would be to only prompt people for age if they arent signed in. If they are signed in, then i'll make a double conformation page, saying "ARE YOU REALLY SURE, THAT YOU WANT TO READ THIS HENTAI" or something. IF they press ok, thats their problem if they get caught. This of course, only goes if your age on your acct is 18+

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  17. Okay, in my opinion it's a good idea to have your age saved in your account so you don't always have to confirm your date of birth, and that there would be another page informing you about the mature content you're about to read.

    About the loli, I don't like it. Yet, I've always thought that it's a good alternative for those who really like girls but actually don't want to go out and rape them. I think it actually prevents people from going really bad. (side note: I'm no psychologist, so I don't guarantee for anything)

    I think Snow's idea concerning loli was pretty good. Upload it (those who have it and dare to do it), have it tagged so people know what they're about to read, see what happens. I really believe there would be at least one warning from the police or FBI to take it off the site, before it will have any serious consequences.

    I quote: "we upload, if nothing happen we are good. if they bitch about this, we delete it" - Snow

    About the poll you might be planning, I suppose those who like loli are the minority, which doesn't mean that they should lose entirely just because they can't achieve majority on the poll, so it's no good idea if you ask me... rather unfair.

    Best regards,
    Breaky

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  18. Who would you want to upset, the outstanding majority, or the minority? I'm trying to make it so everyone will be content.

    This is what I'm thinking of finalizing on

    Loli hentai will probably be on the site. It will have mature warnings, and loli warnings (might be on the same page)

    If you are underage and logged in, then you will be made to confirm that you know its mature content.

    If you arent logged in, a mm/dd/yy will be there.

    For those that dont want Loli in the site-

    Just dont click on it. Loli is just another genre. For example, if you dont like shoujo, or think its a bad thing, would you ask for it to be removed from the site? Or if its shounen that you dont like?

    Its just another classification. Yes, it is illegal in the US, but they are taking their own risk by uploading. I said before i dont like it, but I'm not gonna ruin it for the others that want it.

    Keep posting and hopefully we'll get this thing 100% settled.

    Thanks for the feedback

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  20. sorry guys, from what i am told, if the server is in the US then it is illegal to post loli hentai. it might work for a while but it will be pulled down for child porn.

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  21. I know this isn't realation to the conversation but is mangasaurus.com down? i can't seem to get ot the website

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  22. Dont like lolicon either. And you should add the mature label, by clicking each takes responsibility

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  23. Just so everyone knows, the PROTECT act was struck down a while ago. It was deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. It is NOT illegal to have lolicon/shotacon in the US.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/AheadoftheCurve/story?id=5428228&page=1

    http://epic.org/free_speech/copa/

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  24. Loli hentai, Judicial Review saved your ass. Ahaahahah

    vslice, yea its down. web designer is MIA to me. VLing is in contact with him so she knows wats up.

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  25. Well, just read those two pages, Nekochild, and I couldn't find anything concerning the article aznasim ("TheMutiny") quoted from the PROTECT Act.

    As far as I got it, it just dealt with issues like "May a site have adult content? You know your kids might also get to see those sites, you sure you still want it?!?!"

    It was about Child Protection like in protecting your child from seeing porn.
    It wasn't about Child Protection like in not displaying child porn or lolicon.

    IF it also dealt with lolicon then correct me, I just read those two pages you posted the links to and don't have any other information.

    If lolicon is still prohibited in the USA then I'd like to support aznasim's plans about having lolicon as a genre, don't read it if you don't like it. *When you click on a manga there should be a chapter list page first where you can see the genres the manga belongs to*
    + mature content warning!

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  26. Lets get some basic stuff straight to be prosecuted for CP and or Loli you must have said material SAVED on your hard drive. This also sometimes includes having links saved to the site.

    But let's get real the FBI will not come smashing down your door for Loli nor will they press charges. Reason is simply, waste of time man power and effort. At best the site or person would get a warning shot before the shit hits the fan.

    The mutiny's only real problem towards Loli are two thing's.

    1) Personal preference of staff and users.
    2) Ad providers asking for it to be taken off site

    Easy to fix both of those problem's 1 by vote or just "i don't give a fuck'ery" and 2 by simply complying with advertisers wishes.


    That's it Loli will not be prosecuted against since it's a drawing and has no victims. CP is prosecuted for the reason of the CHILDREN getting hurt by ADULTS. Get this through your heads xD

    Peace

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  27. Like i said before, upload at your own risk. Just view it as a genre with possible consequences, or as a genre that will end up wasting your time because people will ask for it to be removed.

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  28. Wingy..what the heck? You're female, and you are having fantasies about raping little catholic school girls? O_o Holy Snaps! You have to be kidding me..xD

    BTW, DoujinToshokan has loli-hentai (last time I checked) But they don't label it loli.

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  29. If there's one thing i really hated about mangahut, it was the loli H's. Gross.The only good thing about it was the fact that it wasn't real.

    For the record, i don't count Dance in the vampire bund as a loli.

    I'm voting for: Keep it the h*ll off!

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  30. i am just an observer. i realy don,t :( like loli that my opinion.I know it was google who started the rule Why??? because other manga site have google ads and the google people don,t want their ads on a site that has mature or above 18 manga such as mature, hentai, loli,yaoi,Smut Genres that why mangafox has removed this Genres so they could host googleAds the same goes for Onemanga they created another so they could host the mature manga that i mentioned before.
    The google people think is loli is child pornography.

    just don't put google ads if u dont want the hentai to be removed that all i care about

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  31. Double edged sword. I dont use google ads, that could cause problems. I use google ads, people are unhappy. ffs

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  32. In my opinion, I prefer not to have loli hentai. loli hentai, is in a way, child pornography. No offense of course?

    I would just like to say that well, if you post it up, and law states that it is breaking the law, then you're a criminal offender. You're a supporter. It doesn't really matter WHO reads what but WHAT is on sites...

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  33. No Loli plox. Or any child pornography, it would be disturbing to have that on the site.

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  34. Screw that. Loli's what's best.

    ~ aUsCkEs

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  35. Loli is needed. It's not illegal, so consider it an extra feature for the site that WILL bring people. So, please do include it as many people will come because of it. Also, when is the site going to come out?

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  36. sexyboi is wise.

    By the way, what the heck is The Mutiny?

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  37. Well i think VLing put it better than i did in a few paragraphs, but heres the summed up version.(if you dont care for the summary, just skip to the end)

    When Kaiten started banning all mods and uploaders, i (aznasim) took a shit on his rant, then a bunch of others did, more and more people got banned. The site collapsed, blah blah blah.

    You know that part.

    Then a bunch of people including Euphoria, Latoshan, Vling and I (only people i really remember right now) mad a chatroom, which led to a forum, which led to the plans for this new site called MangaSaurus.

    Basically its a name we gave to ourselves.

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  38. Yeah, upload loli at you own risk. But what Static said might fly, DON'T LABLE IT LOLI. Then again, I don't want the site to go down for CP.

    And by the way Static, I'm not kidding about what I said about my fantasies with little girls. I am 5 feet of a pure lesbian love machina who loves to lead the little religious girls away. *wink*

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  39. well thats more arousing than disturbing wingy
    lulz

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  40. I am against adding LOLI to the site but if the people who want LOLI somehow win make sure you CLEARLY LABEL IT LOLI I and many other people like me will not enjoy accidental clicking on it.

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  41. If i didnt label it loli, i would end up scarring kids for life. Its only fun doing that to kids who are annoying.

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  42. Just label it loli, let's all consider it as a warning and not as an act of supporting CP or anything.

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  43. It to appear that mangahut is officially dead.
    Is mangasaurus really being made? It is ok, I won't say anything mean. I won't make a manga site anymore. No Point. I'll just help the people on mangatoshokan.

    But if anything happens here, I'll be sure to be around...

    As for LOLI hentai...I say no at first. Do it when the database has enough manga to camouflage the loli/shota-cons stuff.

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  44. Mangahut is just adjusting the server specs. It will be back up in a couple of days.

    I am curious on the status of Mangasaurus. I would love to upload some manga there. Any idea for a date?

    I agree that if loli is on the site it needs a label. Personally I would rather have it off the site though.

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  45. I'm currently in the process of trying to get a new web designer. I really want this site to be up. I cant give a date, just hold on.

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  46. I would not advise risking scrutiny and stuff over loli. If the people want it, they can go elsewhere. Let's stick with the basic manga first.

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  47. It's not illegal other sites took loli off at the request of the server owners because they didn't want the associations. Not because it was illegal and I don't know about you but I've never met anyone who's been arrested for doodling in their sketch book. For those people who don't like it, here's a thought don't click on it.

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  48. ...Totally random time-wasting and searching has led to my finding out KaitenV's real name...

    Anyway, looks like mangahut is going away. Lack of funds.

    Seriously, don't have the loli. It is DEFINITELY illegal in a lot of places (for example, Germany, Singapore, etc). And it's borderline illegal in the US (depictions of minors in sexual acts are a no no).

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  49. Why dont you guys just buy out mangahut then. The site is for sale and if the price is cheaper than the cost of hiring a designer and spending the time to get it how you want. Then the additional cost of developing your name/brand and getting a decent ranking on the search engines.

    It actually might be cheaper and poetic justice in a odd way, you guys are what made the site and without you, it couldnt last.

    think about it.

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  50. Eh, schizo. After some downtime, it went up with a post on the front page that he was out of money and would have to shut down. Now it seems it's not going down, since he's fixed it and uploads/viewing are functioning again, and the shutdown post is gone. Who knows what's going on with that site.

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  51. There is also a new mod to the site. It seems that the site is going to continue functioning. However, I don't know what the situation is with the money. I guess it will clear up in time.

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  52. Exoram, thats a good idea. i just need to find out how expensive it is. its weird going back to MH, but if we bought it, it could go back to its previous glamor (before Kaiten came back).

    Sinraeyan: Yea i saw that. Shao Lin or watever.

    Hopefully the site is up for grabs. If we buy it it could be either really really good, or just fail completely.

    /thread this.

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  53. I don't know if there is any kind of law against the loli but onething I know, there is a law against anything that does apology to child pornography doesn't metter if it's a cartoon, anything that looks like a kid being sexualy abused is considered Child Pornografy apology

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